Friday, February 12, 2010

Hearing is Believing MP3 link

http://www.ruthshat.com/ksupj/hearing_is_believing

Audio essay on sound and aurality. Some questions to consider when you blog:

1) What is the main point?
2) How does it relate to the course theme (mediums and messages)?
3) How do we construct our worlds through sound?

Your blog posts MAY answer these questions or explore any aspect of the essay.

This is not a studio-quality recording, but the minor surface noise should not detract from its overall feel.

Be sure to check out the Hornby piece on music as well; it's short and relatable.

Phil

Wednesday, February 10, 2010

IMAGES!!!!!

Where are images found???? Lynda Barry really inspired me to think about images and where they are found. The things we see every day ranging from our TV sets to the buildings in our local downtown cities, are based on the images of another persons dreams. These people thoughts were tranferred to paper and then transformed into the sights that we see everyday. Our entire world has been made to fit the ideals of another persons imagination, nature is the closest to being a basic image that everyone shares. Images is something that is with held in the eyes of the beholder. Even though we all see the same thing, we all have different opinions about it. Some people like certain things and some people dont. The whole world is made of images so in my opinion images can be found anywhere. Most importantly its not all about seeing the image bacause we all see the same thing in some degree, but its all about how you view the image.

Where Are Images Found?

What an interesting question... Where are images actually found? After reading Lynda Barry's article I really thought about it. All images come from a person's imagination and no image is the same in someone's head. Everything we see around us, besides nature, was all designed in someone's head. For example, when you're driving down a road, look all around you. Someone designed the road you're driving on, it was an image in their head at one point. The houses going along the side of the road, someone designed those and pictured it in their own head before they were even built. The stop sign ahead of you, which is very common, once was an image in someone's head that someone came up with. It's crazy to think of how much people's imagination had built the environment around us. Everyone images things different even when they are being described to them, such as someone telling another person a story, they will not have the same image in their head.

where are images found?

In the article it talked about where are imagges found? They are found in the persons head that is reading or imagioning something. Everyone could have different images it all just depends on how you see what you are reading. For instance if you are reading a book you could think of the characters in a way and it fits perfect but then they come out with a movie and you dont want to watch it because you dont think that the character should look like that. It all depends how you take things in. If people didn't use there imagionation than everything would be so boring no one would want to read it would just be kind of pointless. The world would be nothing without imagionation. It would be bland and no fun. Some people use there imagionation for everything and could help them do things like art and write books and what not.

Errors and Images

I agree with what Willliams is saying in The Phenomenology of Error. Some writers and readers are so quick to judge a writer's grammatical and word choice errors instead of focusing on the message of what the writer is trying to say. I also believe that every writer has their own style just like they would in a verbal conversation. Everyone speaks differently. So I say if they want to use phrases that they would typically use in a verbal conversation, even if it's not proper grammar, let them. The piece of writing will sound more like them. I should also say it does depend on the type of writing, though. I wouldn't give that advice to someone writing a formal letter or research paper. I like how he compares social errors with errors in writing. For instance, you don't say "I'm sorry" when you make an error in writing. I think Williams is saying that some people are more harsh when judging what's on paper than judging something that is unacceptable to them in real life situations. Williams is actually saying that the reader has the most short comings.

While viewing the pages on Lynda Barry's graphic essays I noticed my eyes went straight to reading the words first. Probably so I could interpret the images better. What jumps out immediately is that it says images are found in your imagination and in action between the inside and out. Which I think is true. Everyone has different experiences and has seen different things in their lives to shape what they imagine. I think imagination is unique in the fact that possibilities are endless and limitless. Lynda's imagination seems kind of scary to me lol. With all those dark figures with no definite faces. You can also tell she likes nature and using animals in her graphics(which aren't so scary haha).

Images and Errors

Personally, I was very lost on both of these readings. From my understanding, or lack of, the "Where are images found?" article was saying that images came from our imaginations. I believe this is very true. I do not know here images would come from but our imagination? I feel like everyones images of the same item would be different. Take for instance if everyone had to draw a picture of what they thought a desert looked like. Everyone would draw a desert, but they would all be different because our imaginations are completely different from one another. Other than that I found that article to be a bit strange and hard to understand. Maybe that is just me.

The "Errors" article was basically a roller coaster ride for me. I was lost on about 90% of it. His rambling on and on was just way too much for me to comprehend. I thought the examples he had of writers contradicting their errors was kind of interesting, but really did not appeal to me. I do not know why it was so hard for me to follow? maybe its his style of writing? maybe its his words? I don't know. As far as the "game" goes. I think it was him using a bunch of errors during that whole writing on purpose, to see if anyone had noticed. I think he came out straightforward and said that though. I think his point on errors is that everyone makes them? or maybe that errors are seen differently by different readers because everyone has a certain belief on what certain errors are? Like I said both of these readings were extremely hard for me to follow. I think he locates errors in the writer. Especially when he showed the examples of grammarians violating their own rules. I think he showed these examples to show that everyone makes errors, even grammarians.

Where do images come from?

When first looking at Linda Berry's where do images come from a lot jumps out at you at first glance. but then when you start to focus in on the graphics you begin to see many things. the one thing that caught my attention was the big words "where are images found?" on the first page, and thats the whole question where are images found? i think that all images are first found in a persons head. you have to think it up before you can put it on paper and draw or describe it. the next thing that popped out at me is the human body that is made up of different things. i think it jumped out at me because of how weird it is and its not something you would see as a model of a human body. the first page of the grapics is more based on how we imagine things, and how people make up the images of things in there head. the second page is more based on your own imagination. its looks like Linda imagined these things and just decided to draw them out. the main thing that sticks out at me is the thing that looks like the shape of a womans head but kinda spreads out. underneath the figure it says "when we imagine things we don't want to imagine, why cant we stio ourselves?" i think that the figure is a representation of that because its looks like something that comes out of a bad dream and no one likes bad dreams. i feel that the Where do images come from by Linda Berry is not something usual, its something that your not gonna see everyday but so our imaginations and that is why i think she drew the graphics the way she did because images come from peoples imagination.

In our convergences book we were asked to view a piece of Lynda Barry’s graphic essay and address where our eye is drawn first, what jumps out immediately, and what elements take longer to absorb. I looked at the picture and the two things my eyes were drawn to first were the text and the images of the human figure. The human figure is what jumped out immediately. I’ve heard of babies being attracted to things that resemble the human figure or face and thought it was somewhat funny that it’s sort of like the same situation here with most of us. I think it’s just the way we’ve been taught and what we’re used to. The elements of the picture that took a little longer to absorb were just the small details of the picture and faded text. I think naturally anyone would automatically be attracted to something bolder and more noticeable. I also think the cursive text in the background is less dominant than the bubble letter text. When you think of signs made for pep rallys or protests they are made with letters that are big and colorful, similar to the big colorful letters that are more noticeable in the picture. I think I particularly like this picture because it reminds me so much of all the notebooks I’ve ever had in my life. I constantly find myself drawing or writing a completely random sentence that’s in my head. That’s what I see a lot of this picture being, just a bunch of different things that was on the authors mind coming together to form this single piece.

Tuesday, February 9, 2010

Williams - what to look for?

As many of you are having difficulty with the Williams article, I have included a few questions to prompt your blogging:

1) What is the "game" he talks about at the end of the article (p. 165)?
2) What is the main point Williams is making about errors?
3) Does he locate errors in the writer or the reader?
4) Why would Williams want to show evidence of grammarians violating their own rules?

I know it's a difficult read, but don't get bogged down in his analysis of minutiae - he does have a very important point to make here.

Good luck. We will discuss on Wednesday.

Monday, February 8, 2010

When Images Come To Us...

In "Where are images found", The author asks us what catches our eye at first. To me, the human figures pop out most, probably just because they are the biggest. If you look closely though, you see a lot of text. The pictures are actually mostly text and little things. I think these pictures are basically saying that there are so many things in our imaginations and they are all jumbled up. We have so many thoughts and pictures and images and i think these pictures portray that exactly. The pictures are all jumbled with words and colors and images everywhere, but its just like our minds. My favorite part of the picture is the writing by the person with a clock for a face. It says "When we imagine things we dont want to imagine, why cant we stop ourselves?" I think this is so true and that no one has control over our imagination, not even us.

Is blogging cool ?

I wouldn’t count it as “cool” its not like going to a concert, going to a huge party, or having the latest fashion trends. I think at one time it was cool, not for me personally, but for my age group. I think when the internet first came out that blogging was cool. It was something new and refreshing to do online. It was cool to type all your thoughts or whatever you wanted to write about on an “online journal” for anyone to read.I remember in junior high blogging was what everyone was doing. Everyone in my school had a zanga, (I think that’s what the site was called.) All my friends would go on there after school and write about their day so everyone could comment on it. The more comments you got, the “cooler” it was. Now that there’s so much technology and being able to go online with a few clicks on your phone , blogging isn’t a big deal – it’s old news.

Is Blogging Cool?

Blogging has obviously declined over the past three years, but i believe that blogging is still cool. i think blogging is cool because it is somewhere you can voice your opinion on a certian topic and have arguments over the topic with someone halfway around the country or even the world. its somewhere where no one knows what you look like and doesnt have any prejudging opinions about you or what your going to talk about. just because blogging isnt as popular anymore doesnt mean that its something bad its just some people dont want to anymore or they have just done enough blogging in there lifetime. i think blogging is something everyone shouldnt put down until they have tried it, because blogging isnt just for nerds its for everyone and its about everything.

Blogging

I have noticed a drop in teen blogging. In 8th and 9th grade Xanga was all the rage atleast with my particular group of friends and peers. We would blog about what we did that weekend(which wasn't much..we were 13), and we would collect those icon pictures. Since then, I really haven't blogged much except maybe on myspace once in a blue moon. I will read blogs when I come across them.
I too definitely noticed that more adults blog now a days. Which I'm glad. Their blogs are more interesting to read in my opinion. They have life experience, have been places, and have more complex thoughts than fourteen year olds who blog "OMG went to the mall it was so much fun. I <3 shopping". Not to say that blogging isn't a good outlet for people in high school.

Blogging has become less popular, but it being "cool" really is an opinion.

Is Blogging "Cool"?

In my opinion, I wouldn't call blogging "cool". I've never really known anyone that blogged or had any interest in it, so I dont think its a very popular thing for kids my age to do. To me blogging is just something people do to complain about things or put there opinions out there. But in all actuality, no one is probably ever going to read about what a normal person is blogging about, unless its something really important or really interesting. I dont know too many people who are going to go online and search for someones blog to read. I think the article is basically telling us that blogging obviously isnt a popular thing to do online and i think the author realizes that kids are just not into that kind of thing. But in conclusion, even though most people probably think its boring, if its fun for you and entertains you, then i say go ahead and blog if thats what you like to do. It's just not for everyone.

Blogging? Cool?

I never thought of "blogging"as something cool or really trendy. I just thought of it as something you could do online. I never realized people actually bashed on people for blogging. Seems kind of dumb. To me blogging is like a new-age "diary"for most people. Since technology is the big thing now and everything is online. The people who used to sit in their rooms all day and write in their journals and diaries, now just write it all online. Whether they post about their days or their feelings, maybe bashing a movie or a certain band. I don't think its necessarily cool but I don't think its something you say "dude, thats not cool". I don't blog on a regular basis, but sometimes if I wanna make a point to a large group of people, I write a blog so that they can all see it without having to talk to each person individually. Other than that, if you want to blog and it helps you get through your day than by all means go for it. Don't think of it as something cool, that will raise your social status cause that is definitely not going to happen.

Is Blogging Cool?

I don't necessarily think blogging is cool or uncool, it's whatever interests a person. It's like asking if knitting is cool, some people enjoy it and some people don't. Some people might think knitting is cool and some may not, so it goes the same as blogging. I don't really have a preference on whether blogging is cool or not; I don't do it because it doesn't appeal to my interests. I give props to people who can blog everyday about different issues around the world, I just don't have the time or interest to do it. I would rather read a blog with someone's opinions than write one myself. I like to read what people think on an issue, and it opens my eyes to a different perspective even if it's not my personal opinion. So, I can't really put a label on whether I think it is "cool" or not. In the article, it said that the percentage of blogging teens decreased dramatically. I think this is because the internet is just coming up with alot of different websites and things to do on the internet which is pushing blogging out of the way. I go on facebook and twitter everyday, and when i first got to this class is when I wrote my first blog. People have different interests and hobbies; technology is constantly changing so I am not surprised that blogging had decreased.

Everyone blogs.

Everyone blogs. In an age of Facebook and Twitter, your weekly blog may be broken up into a hundred pieces, labeled as tweets or status updates, but it's the same thing. Don't do Facebook or Twitter? In that case, your blogs probably come in the form of facial expressions, or unwanted rants at whomever is in earshot. To deny this to be the same thing probably puts you in the group of people who use terms like 'cool'.

Unless you're dead. In that case, feel free to mock bloggers. Those guys aren't cool at all.

To blog or not to blog

I personally dont find blogging that cool. I think for something to be cool it has to be fun to do and I dont find sitting in front of a computer screen writing down my thoughts all that fun. I dont think blogging ever was that cool but thats what the author of this blog seems to insinuate. I think that people who blog need to find something better to do with their time instead of sitting there complaining about some stupid thing that has happend to them. I am not even sure why people do it in the first place. I think it might have something to do with the fact that as human beings we love to talk about ourselves and what we think. Its also kind of sad if you think about it because you have no one to tell these ideas to you have to right them down on the computer. Thats all I really dont think blogging is that cool.

Is Blogging Cool? If your my age, probably not.

The whole idea of blogging is a magnificent idea. To give any person a voice among the crowd and to be able to share ideas should be cool, right? What I've regrettably come to realize is that it is my generation that killed the blog. It has turned into a place where sad "emo" kids can go and write their daily confessionals. Its pathetic. The kids these days will blog about anything. I swear to God I've never seen so many kids deeply in love at the age of 14. So they will post a sad song lyric, followed by a hopeless note, followed by a depressing virtual ass beating by there peers. Blogging is just a drama inducer on steroids- only the cool and worthy survive these days. The age of cool blogging is dead. That is unless your doing it for a college I writing class...... I don't know, I'm just kind of banking on brownie points on that one. It work?

Blogging was never cool

Blogging is one of those things that use to be fun to certain people but became very old when new things came to play such as facebook and twitter. honestly i never blogged before i arived in this class. i was a person that was never interested in blogging. I thought it was very pointless but to in some what degree something to do if your bored. I had many friends that blogged when i was in 9th grade but they only did it when they were very bored. Back then everyone was into myspace or tagged. I think blogging could have been cool if myspace and many other things were never created. it seem like blogging was overshadowed by myspace , tagged, and things in that nature. Alot of people my not even know what blogging is. If people took the time out to try it then i think it would have been something as big as facebook!!!!

The Cool

I feel that blogging is only as cool as whoever is talking about it. For example, if your an avid fan of blogging and you blog all the time then of course its going to be cool to you, but if its something you never do then its obviously going to appear as being not very cool. Granted, everyone has their own views of how blogging is viewed and no one persons view is the correct answer to whether or not its cool, only based upon the fact that everyone has their own views. The charts may be accurate, but keep in mind that times change and with the changing times, the activities and technology changes as well. So for example, in 2006, Myspace was the site that everyone was on and had to have, and even on Myspace people had their own personal blogs, so the number was higher then as opposed to how it is now. Now in 2009, people are obsessed with Facebook and Twitter so there is no time for blogging or anything of the sorts.
I had to laugh a little when reading this article. While I do think blogging isn't nearly as popular as it used to be, I highly doubt there are kids on the street throwing cans at people just because they blog. I guess I can kind of see where blogging can be considered nerdy or a little weird but I think it is just due to the way things have changed over the years. With websites like facebook and myspace, we are basically blogging all the time. It's all in how you view it. I completely agree with the article in the sense that you don't see as much people today blogging, but I also completely disagree with the idea that people use the term "blogger" on college campuses, or anywhere, as an offensive name. I think the writer of this article is trying to make it seem like the youth of today are a bunch of jerks when it comes to the different things people do, which is true in most cases, but I really don't believe blogging is one of them.

Blogging Cool??

I never was a fan of blogging persay. I can take it or leave it. I think that teens now blog less than they did 3 years ago is beacuse technology is rapidly changing. In 2006 that was when all the social networking sites became very popular. So of course teen would be glued to a computer. Now i think teens are glued to their cell phones now. With so many phones having internet access and so many other great features, many teens probably find gettin on the computer a waste of time, other than the reasons for school related things. I just think that blogging was a fad and it may even become popular again. But for now teens interests and focus has changed.

Bloggers are the new uncool

IN the short article about how blogging is a dieing trend I tend to agree with the author not because that it may be a dieing trend but probably because more and more teens attention spans are dwindling past the breaking point. With the new HULU and YOUTUBE generation taking over blogging has become vlogging which is the new cool considering the fact that anybody can create a short video post it to the Internet and then have tons of adoring fans screaming their name out once properly noticed. Its to my belief that blogging has not gone to the wayside rather it has evolved into something new, the older folk fall into place picking up where the younger generation left off, which of course is to be expected

"Is Blogging Cool?"

In my perspective, yes... although 'cool''s is kinda a corny way to put it, in my opinion.

To me, the words I would describe it: useful and expressive.

At times, it's good for people to have some form of a blogger, especially for ones that doesn't talk to many people openly at times, and wishes to throw their imagination, their bad day at work, whatever, onto a blog. Better than holding, whatever it is, to yourself.

... Thinking about it... in my opinion, ANYTHING could be a blog. Facebook... sometimes people go using a whole lot of words on their 'statuses'. ... Isn't that another way to call a blog (except a much shorter version of it)?

Either way, not many people who are professionals in their skills would want to type out a formal letter to people to announce/tell of a story to people. Sometimes it's relaxing, fun, and even cute, when one talks to others within a community through something as flexible and free-willing as blogging.

Places like Facebook, DeviantArt, Myspace... all of those are a community place, and a blog helps announce things to the world, instead of having to say something to people OVER and OVER again.


It's can be good for one's health, one's imagination, and to have fun with. So that's why I see blogging as a useful tool you can use at times. You might not become a big addict with it, but hey, isn't it time you tell your friends what was so humorous about your day at work today?? : )

Is Blogging Cool?

Back in 2006 i think blogging wasn't really cool but no one said anything about it. They just thought that if you blogged that you liked to write and they was noting really wrong with that. Now a days if you blogg there will be kids sayinig he is such a nerd because he writes. Most teens think they are being cool saying that stuff but its what people like to do. Teens probably don't blogg cause they dont want to get made fun of but that should not be the case. It was never really a popular thing only 26% of teens did it but it has decreased dramatically. Blogging should be your thing if you like to do it, no one should judge.

Is blogging cool?

Honestly, I never really blogged that often; once of twice a year. Most of it was just random bull that doesn't really matter but I thought it did at the time. Once I got over the whole idea of posting my drama online for the world to see as well as see what little response I got back I pretty much got away from it. The most recent things I put on there were a couple years ago and they are just random funny stories that I get in emails.

Is blogging cool?

As far as I'm concerned, not really. However it is all based on my perspective. If the things that are being blogged about seem relevant, then have at it. It is that point that is why I think teens have stopped blogging. There is nothing relevant most of us have to say. Just pointless drama or criticism towards someone or a group that we hope will hurt them or make us feel better about our own lives.

In the Older age categories I can see why it has stayed steady. What they blog about means something, most of the time. I would imagine it would revolve around important news or political issues. Any time I have seen blogging by adults it has always been about requesting information for a topic; something is wrong with their computer, what is going on in the government, etc...

blogging.....cool?

was blogging ever "cool"? not a chance. do people make fun of bloggers? i seriously doubt i have never in my life heard of a blooger or blogging joke. its just silly to get so upset over such a thing as blogging like this guy. i find it hard to believe someone threw stuff at him because he looks like he blogs. come on get real buddy. blogging is not even in the back of people s heads let alone they constantly think whether or not that person is a blogger. lets get real its not even in the back of the back of peoples heads its not even in a shoebox in grandmas attic in your head. i forgot logging existed until i had this class. but it is true if i wasnt required to blog i wouldnt be caught dead blogging. for the simple reason that NO ONE cares about what i have to say. now if i was a celebrity or president obama or something. it would be okay to blog. but really who am i to talk about a risky topic. seriously its about at stupid as TWITTER. which is stupid. like what is so amazing in your life that i want to hear about? nothing thats what.

Errors And Images

The reading was somewhat intresting although at the same time it was quite confuseing espeically when the author broke down various things by formula to me it didn't seem nesscary to delve into the very nature of errors and compound that with hypercritical evidence of errors that are commonly used in the english language. Obviously for those who write to the general public being error free in a written piece shows a sense of professionalism and general understanding of the English language. Something like this would have somebody pay more attention or at the very least give more credit towards the article. As for the images in convergence they were pretty cool especially since I'm a design major and things like that really strike a cord with your imagination and you tend to want to notice all the small little details.

'When Images Come To Us...'

Looking through Lynda Barry's, 'When Images Come To Us...', the books asks us... before we jump into the graphic pages, we should look out for what catches our eyes first, and what takes longer.

For me, I started 'zoned' out on the pages, only capturing the shapes that the pages had within, instead of the graphics, or the words themselves. Both pages had that feel of a window when I looked into them, based on the box structure each of them had.

Both pages asked different questions: where are the images found, and what/where is your imagination. All of the answers were like cut-offs, different messages to express the answer in their own way.

The arrangement of the words were cut out from difference sources: from magazines to handwriting, to pictures. The messages were varieties, shouting out these random thoughts to the viewers. It could be confusing to one who isn't used to this sort of 'creativeness'.

After a while, the way the pages were made, reminded me of the band 'Radiohead', based on how their album covers ('Hail To The Thief' being a good example) showed these messages within some form of graphic. In the example I've mentioned, the messages are pilled up on one another, showing the building of subjects: all these little problems cramming up into becoming one big problem.


That's what I experienced in this. It showed that there is more ways to look at something with little bits of messages, all meshed up, and doesn't make a lot of sense at first.

Blogging - was it ever "cool"?

http://www.roughtype.com/archives/2010/02/blogging_a_grea.php

Read the article and write 125-175 words on:

- IS BLOGGING "COOL"? Why or why not?

Graphic Essay

When I first saw the 2 “collages” on page 338 and 339 I first noticed the human body, or should I say the parts of the human body. Then I started reading the little word cut outs on the side. Then I looked to the left and saw the eyeball and next to it “look read see” I liked that picture because with all of the drawings on the page, you can look, read, and see. Looking meaning just skimming through the pictures. Reading by reading all the little notes and words. Then, actually SEEING the big picture and bringing all of the words and drawings together. The second set of drawings had 2 really dark images and a weird spider creature that I thought made it look more negative than page 338. But it said on the top, Your Imagination? It started to make me think about how many images your brain keeps track of. With all of the images your brain holds, your imagination is pretty amazing. Anyone could think of anything so crazy and off the wall, just by piecing together different parts of your memory and putting them into pictures.

a place for my stuff

This is really comical, yet so honest. A house is a place to keep your stuff, while you go out to get more stuff! I've never thought about this. But it's funny when somebody points out the true things about life. You feel at home because it's a place for your stuff. When you go to somebody's house you don't quite feel at home because it's not a place for your stuff! A women's purse is a place for her stuff! The funniest thing he said was, If you didn't have stuff you wouldn't even need a house. If you think about it we have a lot of things in our houses that we don't even need. The more unnecessary things we get the more space we need. So we go out and get a bigger house. Or if your house is empty we go out and buy things to fill it up. Everybody makes sure their belongings are safe. That's why we lock our doors. Then if you think about it a car is also a place for our stuff. It's also used for driving but some people use it as a second home! Even when we go out to eat or an event and we sit down on a table we make place for our stuff. Especially when we go to the airport, you can see all the little piles of people's stuff. Have you noticed that their stuff is shit and your shit is stuff? That was another funny line. It's so true we cherish all of our belongings but don't have the same respect for other people.

Convergences and Errors

The Convergences reading was cool to read and think about. Images are everywhere. I think images help you understand things. Imagining something in your mind can help a lot. Picture books are used with young children a lot for a reason. They help the mind develop and be creative. As for the Erroros reading, I did not like so much. I did not quite understand what the point of the reading was lol. Social errors can depend on the culture. For example Ibelieve in Asian cultures it is disrespectful to look a teacher in the eyes and here in the U.S that is very much respected. I do agree with Social Errors needing an apology and the Linguistic Errors does not. There are too many Linguistic Erroros made for that.

The Phenomenology of Error blog

The assigned reading had its moments, but for the most part it left me kind of confused. The author made several good points however on what "errors" really should be considered as. Who judges these grammatical errors? The thought I would like to introduce from the piece is what would happen if we wrote without worry of making error? To be free of this could open up different writing styles, thoughts, points, views- its almost endless. This is especially evident in college courses. Professors put so much emphasis on grammatical correctness that it makes it hard for students to say what they would really like to. On the other hand, we need a standard. I truly believe a standard is necessary so we can collect or thoughts on paper with some kind of organization and order. Its nearly impossible to read a paper with so many errors that your focus is on just the errors and not the content. I really enjoyed his comment on dinner table manners and how they are linked to grammatical errors...it actually got a laugh out of me. Overall the reading was really quite challenging for me. I usually can sail right through a reading, but this one left so much up to the reader to interpret. It was practically just several pages of some authors opinion. I've said mine, whats yours?